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Prolyfic Responds Again To Lupe (Twitter Wars)

RamZ — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:57:08 +0000

This is just going crazy…:

- @LupeFiasco aye man… this ain’t about me and you.. you’re right, I did place myself on the outside… that was MY decision, and MINE ALONE

- @LupeFiasco with that being said, how can I be salty for my own decision? Not once did I place myself in anything I said.. i’m just a fan

- @LupeFiasco A fan that knows more than the average fan knows.. ALOT more than you may THINK i know.. but when it’s all said & done..

- @LupeFiasco I’m just speaking from a fan that wants to see you win… regardless of how we PERSONALLY feel about one another..

- @LupeFiasco and when I say win I mean do what we all know you can do.. which is RUN THIS SHIT.. which you very well can do

- @LupeFiasco and you’re right FUCK WHAT I SAY… this is just my opinion… you don’t have to hear me… but you heard me right? right

- @LupeFiasco and it’s not like i’m over here sayin you fell off bcuz you aint with me or you need a beat from me yadayadaya NO.

- @LupeFiasco at the end of the day..I just wanna see you active.. you’d be surprised at how many ppl want to see the samething in YOUR circle

- @LupeFiasco right now you’re ACTING like you don’t care about this shit.. that’s the perception.. and NONE of the fans of you deserve that.

- @LupeFiasco yea the ppl I name pay homage to you.. but what does that mean when the masses pay no mind to you? why cant we get both?

- @LupeFiasco & lets not forget.. yo own girl even told you to your face.. the same way they know me for you.. ppl know who YOU are bcuz of me

- @LupeFiasco all that 2 say..i’ve nvr altered my opinion of u as a artist..I thought u was the best when we 1st started..I think the same now

- @LupeFiasco I also know your FULL potential..a potential you’re not showing to the world.. i’ll never let our personal bias change that

- @LupeFiasco & I dont “hate” the petition..I think it’s dope that u have such devoted fans..however if u did more they wouldnt have 2 do that

- @LupeFiasco & fuck all tht lil bro cloud 9 crap..last I check I was the oldest..i’m just showing a lil tuff luv..what are u speakin from?

- @LupeFiasco the place where ME & YOU are from, this type of motivation is normal..so why u flippin now? take tht fuel & get back in the ring

- @LupeFiasco Fuck me.. fuck my beats, fuck all that shit.. look at me as a fan that wants you to succeed.. you comfortable right now

- @LupeFiasco those people that are paying u homage are being set up to replace you.. they steal your name/flow/style & they’ll steal ur fans

- @LupeFiasco and you become buddy buddy with them and let them.. all they have to do is tip they hat to you and u give them the hall pass

- @LupeFiasco you came under jay.. jay never let nobody rise ABOVE him.. and neither should you.. especially when you can control it

- @LupeFiasco it’s cool to be cool… but remind niggas who you are and the value you have every now and then.. keep niggas in check

Hmm…I feel Pro is in some way insulting fans? Like he pets us only to then backhand slap us…but the fact he brought in Lupe’s ‘ladyfriend’ into this war of words, it’s definitely a personal debate made public. WE HAVE NEW BEEF!

It’s interesting because both give valid reasons in their comments, it is actually kinda painful even for me to at times agree with certain points Prolyfic makes…only to then again, see him backhand slap things again…

This looks to be going on for a long while soon, but we will have as much update as we can on this. In the meantime, let us know what you think – Pro or Lu?

Check the first comments by Prolyfic made here
Check Lupe’s response here

Lupe Fiasco Hitting Back at Prolyfic

RamZ — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:05:22 +0000

At the moment I type this Lupe Fiasco is sending a rampage of messages towards Prolyfic via the power that is: Twitter.

Literally moments early in the day we posted up Prolyfics Tweeting rant along with my rant NOT AGAINST the awesome Lupe, but wanted to share an opinion. I will add to what I want to say more here because, well, I can, whether you actually read or not. The tweets included harsh words towards Lupe saying he no longer is making hits, his situation with Mixtapes and also Lupe’s attitude towards leaks and fans.

But right now it seems Lupe has words of his own to say, which is starting to look interesting. Check it out:

* – Oh word?…I thought I was banned???…guess I’m needed after all hahaha…

* – PRO!…my man…ur not my manager…fall back…take all that “advice” and further your career with it…

* – You put yourself on the outside…so don’t be salty now that your being treated like an outsider…

* – My career is mine. And I’ll proceed with it how I wish. Your ignorant to my situation and why WE move how WE do. Speak what you know…

* – Not what you think you know…becuz frankly you know very little. But I KNOW you lil bro, I’m the reason they even know you at all…

* – I pray you sell a few beats the same way your selling yourself right now. When the music stops who’s gonna have a chair to sit in?

* – So FUCK what pro say…look @ this protest…if that ain’t a sign of success then i don’t what is…and you DEFINITELY don’t know…

* – To remind you lil bro. 1 Grammy, 9 Grammy Nods, 2 Gold Albums, 1 platinum single, 10+ World Tours, a WORLDWIDE Fanbase of ALL AGES…

* – NO LIQUOR SPONORS! ALL out my own pocket…don’t use poison to push my shit…we good over here lil bro…better than you may think…

* – The people you compare me to pay homage to me!!! You saw it yourself…didn’t you?…something must be getting done right..,,

* – Funny how some people hate when others start showing love (petition!)…how is showing love corny? Damn…u wonder why we lost…

* – Wonder Why they don’t respect and write off our generation…we proving them right…fuck me and my raps…I’m just a small part of it…

* – The point of it all is that these kids don’t grow up with just one side of the story…we gotta do better or we’re gonna lose…

* – So while I got the spotlight on me…I spreading love and light. Corny and all…if u can do better then please takeover…

* – If you not then fall the fuck back and let REAL brothers and sisters do what we gotta do… Rules 2 Rule

* – And Nahright don’t be fake now bro…u banned me remember?…makes you look real suspect…still a closet fan huh? Hahaha some people….

* – Feelin real good. On my slow rise. Look at my fans. Open Minds, Open Eyes…

* – Could be the best, if wanted to, But I want THEM to be the BEST!, And that’s the same thing I want for you…

I think his ranting has stopped, but that is one reason I like Lupe Fiasco, the man just does what he prefers. He hasn’t changed himself and is always original. Prolyfic may have been right on a couple of things, but reading it over and over what he said it really feels like he’s held a grudge and really thought the direction Lupe Fiasco has gone isn’t the one he himself expected – hence comparing Lupe to Gucci Mane, Lil’ Wayne, Drake…which by the way is no competition what so ever.

More to say at a later time but…its late here for me, and early for Americans, pssh…Let us know what you think – Prolyfic or Lupe?

P.S. I also urge people to sign the petition prove a point that every artist deserve a moment an not be held back like this. Whether we love or hate them, we still deal with them and need the sounds in our life so…indeed, click, sign. DO IT!

Prolyfic Hits Out At Lupe Fiasco

RamZ — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:32:13 +0000

It is rare to see someone hit out at Lupe Fiasco other than his own fans who criticize certain points of him (the delays, the change, the idea etc.), but Lupe’s former producer and friend Prolyfic has gone in on the Chi-town rapper saying that he is “afraid of failure”.

Using the power of Twitter, Prolyfic went on a rampage accusing Lupe Fiasco of not making great hits, something that he refuses, hence why his current upcoming album, L.A.S.E.R.S, is being shelved for now. He questioned why Lupe went from being one of the most talked-about artists in Hip Hop to having his album delayed and not making many of the industry’s “hottest rapper” lists. This all comes just as the announcement of a petition to Atlantic Records releasing the album surfaced the net.

Checkout the full list of rampant remarks below, it’s a long one:

* RT @TheLupENDBlog #WeWantLasers Petition to Atlantic Records http://bit.ly/9JOyOf < REALLY!?!?!? that’s what we on now @LupeFiasco?

* Some folks might want to turn their head, bcuz I have some choice words for this whole #WeWantLazers “movement” & @LupeFiasco as an artist about 2 hours ago via web

* Ok FIRST off I really like @LupeFiasco as an artist.. I enjoy listenin to his music.. when it’s available to listen to… that being said…

* This nigga @LupeFiasco really be on some scared of failure as shit… He is his own worst enemy… and he’s fucking up ROYALLY

* I mean where do I begin? how does Such a talented individual like @LupeFiasco become such a utter disappointment? And it’s his own doing

* 1st u penalize ur fans for WANTING ur music..u make a short mixtape.. then when ur material gets leaked u throw a temper tantrum @LupeFiasco

* What kind of artist PENALIZES fans for someone leaking they music?!?! you should be happy people WANT your music @LupeFiasco

* In a state where everyone is rising to success by giving away free music (Drake, Wayne, Gucci Etc.) @LupeFiasco chooses to hoard his music

* Which results in what? People forgetting about you! which is why @LupeFiasco did not make ANY lists of ANYTHING! When he should be top 3

* - Ain’t no release date on #WeWantLazers cuz ain’t NO FUCKING HITS on it! cuz @LupeFiasco REFUSES to makes hits.. not that he cant.. he wont!

* it’s like u forgot what got u here in the first damn place! u was set up to be “The One” not a reflection of what ur name means @LupeFiasco

* There is NO reason why u shouldn’t be mentioned in the same conversations as Drake or wayne etc… Ppl say “who?” when u mention @LupeFiasco

* & why do they do that? cuz @LupeFiasco is to damn scared to fail! he lacks the HEART to take a risk! So he’s had a careeer of playin it safe So @LupeFiasco figure he’ll appease this crowd.. u know that crowd over there.. they’ll ALWAYS love him, and he won’t have to feel pressured

* A fan of @LupeFiasco’s says: “if he really got w/some great songwriters, producers, & explored all his options he could make a dope album

* Just in case you think I’m making this up…

* But @LupeFiasco is not gonna do that… he’d rather throw temper tantrums and toss complaints about making “what the industry wants”

* But @LupeFiasco’s fans DO NOT want to hear all that crap man.. all they want is the music.. fuck what you talkin bout dude.. do yo job

* Jim Johnson didn’t want to waste a HIT on @LupeFiasco bcuz he INTENTIONALLY associates himself wit Losin..I mean Lazing..Loser Lazer #Shrugs

* An to be truthfully honest.. If @LupeFiasco every made the “Great American Rap Album” or whatever, it will probably be his best album ever!

* As an old former friend.. I’m disappointed.. as a current fan.. i’m disappointed.. enuff is enuff.. get off the bullshit @LupeFiasco

* - I knew the moment @LupeFiasco let them ppl over at #OKP embrace him.. I knew it was over..his music changed & he placed a ceiling on himself

* - All that Japanese Cartoon shit is cool or whatever but DAWG that’s not what Chilly put you here to do @LupeFiasco And you KNOW that!

* - How you go from being endorsed by Jay-z, to basically no public affiliation whatsoever?!?!? @LupeFiasco You spose to be killin it G

* - Lyrically ain’t nobody touching this nigga @LupeFiasco but who cares? cuz nobody know! cuz he only caters to a select SMALL crowd of ppl

* - @LupeFiasco’s Fans wouldn’t have to DEMAND a release on #Wewantlazers if he made the folks at the label WANT to put the machine behind it

* - It’s all politics & bullshit… NO.. The folks at atlantic records do not want to put money behind all that emo weirdo bullshit @LupeFiasco

* - do that shit on ur own time..give the FANS some fuckin music to listen to.. put out some mixtapes..BE ACTIVE & u’ll be on a list @LupeFiasco

* - Mixtape #Weezy Meant something.. Mixtape @LupeFiasco Meant something..so why is Weezy UP HERE, and lupe down there? Lack of supply to demand

* - Alot of people lives, situations, & freedom went into the development of @LupeFiasco it’s a damn shame to watch what he’s doing with it

* - I mean canceling a mixtape bcuz some one leaked your music has GOT to be 1 of the dumbest reasons to deprive fans of something @LupeFiasco

* - Why put yourself in position to have fans..that support u.. if u gonna treat them like shit? it’s not THEY fault ur music leaked @LupeFiasco

* - Everytime I have a conversation about @LupeFiasco it always go exactly the SAME “man dude is so good, wtf is wrong with him? why ain’t he..”

* - At the end of the day dude.. PUT OUT SOME MUSIC.. keep ur BUZZ up.. appease the fans AND THE LABELS or ur gonna get dropped @LupeFiasco b

* You ain’t making no #Hits You go to #neptunes to PURPOSELY get throw away beats.. You ain’t putting no music out.. wtf you doin? @LupeFiasco

* They gon start lookin at you like you dead weight @LupeFiasco then what? YOU HAVE TO DELIVER homie!! it’s just that simple

* Cuz right now @LupeFiasco looking like a Loser.. I mean Lazer.. I mean Loser.. I mean #Wewantlazers O_o

* How does a person that’s bred to be a winner.. become a #Lazer? @LupeFiasco this ain’t you dude..fuck them clothes fuck that rebellion

* When @LupeFiasco 1st started buzzin at the labels ppl was comparin #FNF to like the new BadBoy or Rocafella.. Would u be able to tell today?

* Does @LupeFiasco’s music/Brand/Marketing/Promotion/or #Wewantlazers “Movement” come anywhere close to resembling those powerhouses?

* There’s no reason why it shouldn’t tho… He has the talent.. he HAD the funding.. he had the labels.. and he HAD the cosign @LupeFiasco

* - He also HAD the music..once upon a time..this new shit.. I can’t listen to it.. it’s not for the masses..I dont know who its for @LupeFiasco

* - Why do I care so much? Bcuz I know exactly what went into building @LupeFiasco to be where he is today.. & beyond all that.. I’m still a fan

* And to sit here and watch all this unfold.. personal bias of Wasalu aside.. is just a damn catastrophe.. it’s ironically a @LupeFiasco

* But it seem like the more ppl that sit by the camp fire waitin for @LupeFiasco to do, the less he does & more appalled he seems at the idea

* So the real question is: Why the fuck you here then? @LupeFiasco Just go away if you don’t want the pressures of pleasing ppl.. 32 minutes ago via web

* - And if u gon be here.. BE HERE!! get off the high school reject Wasalu shit and get back on the writing for the black album @LupeFiasco shit

* Call up GBall get in the attic and finish that mixtape.. put that shit out.. call up P and tell him u want a hit record @LupeFiasco

* Call up Soundtrakk.. get in the lab & GO SEE HIM.. that nigga got some cold ass beats waiting for you but you never hear them @LupeFiasco

* Call up Mr. Jones and tell him you BACK on yo Westside of chicago “Failure” shit & let to Craig Calman Know @LupeFiasco

* Get ya fucking thumb out ya ass and be the Artist we all stood behind you KNOWING you could be @LupeFiasco

* And once it finally sink in to you & you get back where u SHOULD be.. I want you to apologize to your fans for making them wait @LupeFiasco

* Blood, Sweat, And Tears went in to you @LupeFiasco the least you could do is play the part you was selected to play.

* I think I’ll set down off my #SoapBox now..Know that my intentions 2 @LupeFiasco were not fueled by malice but of disappointment & confusion

Strong words by the producer against the Chi-town rapper. A majority of what he says is right, whereas I’m not feeling some stuff he’s saying…

As I have mentioned before and as Prolyfic states; Lupe Fiasco was said to be a breath of fresh air in Hip Hop. He was the reason I got into Hip Hop – the material he had, his words, the flow, the beat, the themes he gave, they were amazing and a big change from the constant similarities of how rappers only talk about guns, money, shiny stuff, cars and how they have sex with 60 girls yet leave out the part they get some STD…Food & Liquor was an instant classic to listen to, and when The Cool came out that was another great album he made and his hype was built for fans that wanna hear great music. He provided that.

When he announced LupE.N.D. to be a three CD finale of his interesting legacy it was set to be something great I’m sure, then all of a sudden he scrapped the plans, went on to work on L.A.S.E.R.S., and a year and a half after Lupe himself says the album is done there is still no sign of its actual release. Is he really just struggling that much? What from even? And why the quiet moment? He released one Mixtape since anything which, was okay, not exactly like Street Smart but it was something nonetheless

One part I don’t get Prolyfic saying, is that Lupe Fiasco needs to start making hits. Does he mean hits, or “hits”? With the latter being selling out? Fiasco has made great hits, just cause it doesn’t fit the logic of the likes of Lil’ Wayne, Gucci Mane, or Drake – which the first two named are pathetic sellouts and the last one named has an ego the size of three blimps – should not undermined Lupe’s quality, tis not his fault people will listen to stupid things. I would rather listen to Lupe Fiasco than a fake rapper with pathetic hits like so. L.A.S.E.R.S itself already has ‘I’m Beamin’ which is a great track, ‘Shining Down’ just as brilliant. Problem is they are the only two songs we have heard, so by the time the album comes out half the fans won’t care anymore, a quarter will love it, and the other quarter will go “what?”. All F&L songs are amazing and can easily be played on the radio. The guy is a genius and Prolyfic so far is sounding like he really is hating for personal reasons

What I do agree on however is his logic of what Lupe Fiasco is being like with Leaks. Leaks are bound to happen to everyone, it’s a bitch when it does but life itself is a bitch. You can’t expect a rapper to fully think he’s gonna reach Platinum every time he makes something. People leak albums because people want something they wait for so long so desperately that there is no patience in the world. I never knew he canceled a Mixtape release, why even do that? Mixtapes are born to be leaked – you make them, you YOURSELF release them, and its like getting feedback from your fans giving them what to expect and see the reaction they give for the artists support. You just don’t cancel Mixtapes because that indeed does give the vibe an artist is afraid of failure. Then again…the word failure doesn’t exist in the world no more, people buy any sort of shit – Soulja Boy still lives on, example right there. The fact he didn’t make the MTV list – a list from a network which does not hardly play any music – is nothing to complain about when it does not mean anything, I mean in that year Jay-Z just made one album and got 1st, Eminem didn’t even make the list after his one album, just proves MTV is just rubbish.

But, an artist can do what he feels. End of the day they are the one who know whats going on. I am and always will be a fan of Lupe Fiasco. When a big movement happens like his, when an inspiration comes about it is hard to turn away, but at the same time when you’re passionate about an artist, and in general of true music, you don’t just want it to keep quiet after wanting to make something of yourself. In my opinion Lupe Fiasco needs to, and will do, come back to show how real music is done. His hobbies are the crazy funky things, things people won’t get at times especially in the world of Hip Hop, and Japanese Cartoon (his rock band) are not that bad, but Lupe is not a rapper which we should have to make a petition about, and that is the fault of the record label. Fans want what was F&L, FnF, Righteous Kung-Fu, real music which made so many heads turn. My theory: make music and ignore the shit talk on Illuminati and shit people as such. It shouldn’t matter about what direction to please fans with, for real fans will stick around putting faith, even when it does feel like the emcee from chi-town is staying silent for no apparent reason. It’s all good, just give some explanation how you’re keeping really…

An attitude that needs to be taken by every MC, producer, whoever in the world in general; just get up, do what you do best, let the real fans know who you are, keep them happy cause they keep you happy, and make something happen. Keep it real and keep it cool at the same time, enjoy and share your moment with the people who get inspired by the movement thats made and what we can possibly make. Prolyfic needs to watch what he says maybe, or keep his feelings in private and talk it with Lupe himself.

But that’s me and my rant done. Let us know what you think.

P.S. Fuck DJ Busy. Certain people will understand why…

Damon Dash Talks Jay-Z’s “Betrayal”

RamZ — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:36:56 +0000

Someone isn’t happy still…Damon Dash, the short rap mogul who’s name has kind of disappeared since his split with Jay-Z in 2005, says that Jigga himself was the reason when he “betrayed” the partnership.

Recalling the time when Jay offered rights to the trademark name Roc-A-Fella in exchange for his Reasonable Doubt masters, Dame expresses his shock in Jay’s request.

Speaking to Village Voice, he said: “We all earned those masters. This turn of events remains bewildering. The people that I was helping, once they realised their dreams, they did what a criminal would do. They stabbed you in the back.

“Think about the frustration of building a brand for years that should be taking care of your family, and then the person that was the closest to you saying, ‘Nah, you can’t have no parts of it,’ and flushing it.”

“I thought it was fucked up,” says Leslie “Freeway” Pridgeon, a Philadelphia rapper who released his debut album on Roc-a-Fella in 2003. “I missed the whole family structure that we had: Dame, Jay, Biggs. It was more than just music, like we’re riding regardless.”

Ah…Star Wars…to check out the full thing, click here

In the meantime, let us know what you think.

50 Cent Disses Diddy Before Performing New Song Bitch

G-Swaby — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:54:55 +0000

50 Is causing trouble once again on his Invitation tour in Brazil. In the footage below 50 Cent continues to taunt Diddy before introducing his new remix to “Bitch” (the track he did with E-40). Fiddy is a very funny guy indeed, got to give him that.

50 Cent Launces Petition Against Diddy

RamZ — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:21:36 +0000

Just when this new found beef couldn’t get funnier, and serious at the same time, 50 Cent has gone and done a crazy move.

Recently, 50 Cent has launched a Twitter-based petition against Bad Boy CEO and Hip Hop mogul Diddy. The petition is focused on Diddy’s supposed exploitation of the legacy and music of the late Notorious B.I.G. saying “When was the last time Diddy really was ‘biggin up his brother,’ not biggin up his bank?”

According to 50, the petition stemmed off of the recent video for Jay Electronica’s “The Ghost of Christopher Wallace,” in which Diddy was featured:

Oh so strong actions…if you wanna checkout or even sign the petition, click here. In the meantime – do you think Fiddy is right?

50 Cent DJ Whoo Kid/G-Unit Radio Interview (Audio/Video)

RamZ — Mon, 05 Jul 2010 23:27:26 +0000

Whenever Fiddy is on air via radio, you know its gonna be entertaining. In these five part audio we hear about 50 Cent talking about numerous subjects, such as the recent event he organized in Queens, how children are/should be treated, his son, Lloyd Banks, BET Awards, Alicia Keys, Dipset, Drake, Eminem, Dr. Dre, and more. One notably talk they have is of the apparent record label change from Interscope to Capitol 50 Cent made which became untrue, leaving Fiddy calling Craig Davis an idiot. Also responds to The Games’ ambition to reunite with G-Unit, and also, which to no surprise, his beef with Diddy carries on, and this time he goes further, insulting the dude from being a bitch, to the Cassie photo scandals and more. Its actually a real funny listen. Check it out below, cut in five parts. DON’T ACT LIKE A BITCH!:

The dude is funny just being blunt. Let us know what you think.

Listen: Cassidy – Face To Face

G-Swaby — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:28:26 +0000

This new track from Cassidy really impressed me. On the track Cassidy raps about the competitive nature of Hip Hop, and lists which artists he would love to hear do battle face to face. Not only that, but Cassidy challenges any rapper that wants to go at it with him, to step to him face to face. We all know that battling is a part of Hip Hop, and for as long as it goes on artists will always be competing. Take a listen below.

Game Wants To Reunite With G-Unit

G-Swaby — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:37:46 +0000

After dissing G-unit at least six times on his last mixtape, once again Game wants to call a truce with his ongoing rivals G-unit. While out in Sunset Blvd LA, game was interviewed by the Power radio station, who asked him about working with G-unit once again, Game responded by saying that it’s time to get money and he’s up for uniting with 50 Cent. We all know Game can suffer from a change of heart quicker than a transplant, so how long will it be this time before he starts dissing G-unit again?

Lil Kim: “I Love When People Copy Me” (Video)

RamZ — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:59:02 +0000

Well to me, this sounds like the beef is slowly ending, or getting boring and dying. After Nicki Minaj took a sly shot at Lil Kim during BET award acceptance speech, Lil Kim instantly hit back, sending out another warning to anyone that wants to compete with her, promising that she will take on anyone who thinks they can throw digs at her. Check it out:

Its what she says which is what I feel is just her going a bit too rampant now, saying on Vlad TV: “Y’all know who started this right. Y’all know where this came from though. Let me explain something though.

“I love when people copy me, that’s a complement, but when you bust shots at me and throw pebbles at me, as if I don’t even exist and you don’t see me standing here, I’ma bite you! (laughs).”

I feel like I wanna give her a balloon, I think she’s never had a balloon in a her life…Let us know what you think – Getting a bit too much now seeing as one female sucks, the other just seems to argue? Or still picking your favourite out of the two?

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